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On 30 March 2026 Secretary of State was interviewed by Al Jazeera's Hashem Ahelbarra: Secretary of State Marco Rubio with Hashem Ahelbarra of Al Jazeera, the full text of which follows below. Al Jazeera's website describes Mr. Ahelbarra this way:
"Hashem Ahelbarra is a roving Middle East correspondent for Al Jazeera English. He regularly reports from Afghanistan, Yemen and across the Gulf region. Hashem has covered many of the biggest international news stories in recent years and secured exclusive interviews with many of the major names in world news, including late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, Afghan president Hamid Karzai and former Liberian president Charles Taylor."
The interview provided an opportunity to meet with a representative of a press organ that does not have a reputation for uncritical coverage of the Trump Administration, and which projects in important ways into the MENA regions in ways that Western legacy press organs and their instruments cannot do with the same trustworthiness. The transcript of that interview was also projected (in English and Chinese) into China through the US Embassy in Beijing. The English version was complete; the Chinese version was curated to foreground very specific elements of that interview (马尔科·卢比奥国务卿接受半岛电视台哈希姆·阿赫勒巴拉的采访[摘译] focusing on the Straits of Hormuz, NATO and the possible widening of operations by regional actors within the affected MENA region). The Chinese transcript also follows below.
The interview is interesting not just for its focus on the operations against Iran, but also on the nature of the US Israel joint operations (and their relative coordinated autonomy, and the situation in Venezuela and Cuba. Of particular interest ought to be the very very careful language about NATO and its future.
QUESTION: Do you believe the EU and NATO countries betrayed the U.S. at this crucial moment?
SECRETARY RUBIO: I think it was very disappointing. You have this – and again, look, the President and our country will have to reexamine all of this after this operation is over. But one of the reasons why NATO is beneficial to the United States is it gives us basing rights for contingencies. It allows us to station troops and aircraft and weapons in parts of the world that we wouldn’t normally have bases, and that includes in much of Europe. And to see that in a time of need – the United States has identified a grave risk to our national security and our national interest, and we needed to conduct this operation, and we have countries like Spain, a NATO member that we are pledged to defend, denying us the use of their airspace and bragging about it, denying us the use of our – of their bases. And there are other countries that have done that as well.
And so you ask yourself, “Well, what is in it for the United States?” And I’ve been a big supporter of NATO and one of the reasons why I’ve been a supporter of NATO is because I believe that these basing rights give us leverage and give us flexibility in operational capability all over the world. But if NATO is just about us defending Europe if they’re attacked but then denying us basing rights when we need them, that’s not a very good arrangement. That’s a hard one to stay engaged in and say this is good for the United States. So all of that is going to have to be reexamined. All of it’s going to have to be reexamined.















